Why won't politicians really talk about social care?

Four out of five people will need social care before they die - yet it's hardly been mentioned in the election campaign to date.   

The architect of the government's delayed social care reforms, Sir Andrew Dilnot, has told Paste BN that politicians need to "grow up" and tackle the crisis in the sector.

On this episode of the Paste BN Daily, Niall Paterson is joined by political correspondent Rob Powell to discuss the current state of social care and what political parties are promising to change.

They also hear from Norman Phillips who is a full-time carer for his wife, Ros, who lives with multiple sclerosis and dementia. He tells them the physical, mental and financial toll the lack of access to social care is taking on their lives.

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Producer: Sydney Pead
Editor: Philly Beaumont